Fairy and flasher wrasse question

Discussion in 'Marine Fish' started by graciesdad, Dec 28, 2016.

  1. graciesdad

    graciesdad Treasurer Staff Member

    I know fairy and flashers are all born female and some change to male. it's my understanding that this usually always happens in captivity unless there is a more dominant male. So here is my question... How quickly does the transformation happen? Days? Weeks? Years?

    Is there anything that makes it faster? The males are almost always 2 to 3 times more expensive than the females. For budget minded reefers is the female a better choice?
     
  2. huntindoc

    huntindoc RRMAS BOD Membership Director Staff Member

    In fairies and flashers it usually happens even in the presence of a dominant male. It's what's wrong with buying "pairs" of wrasses. The female ends up turning male and WW3 breaks out. As to how long....could be days to months. I would think the larger the female(older) the quicker it would happen but I have nothing to base that on.

    Some genus of wrasses are a little different. Anampses wrasse usually don't transition in captivity. Females will stay females for years. Macropharyngodon (leopards) usually do but not always and usually take a long time to transition. I was surprised when my Potter's leopard wrasse transitioned in a few weeks.

    The other advantage of buying a female is that they are younger and will live a lot longer. A "terminal" phase male may only live a few years depending on his age when he transitioned.
     
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  3. graciesdad

    graciesdad Treasurer Staff Member

    So the change should be pretty quick for the eight line flasher and the hooded fairy? They were only available in female.
     
  4. huntindoc

    huntindoc RRMAS BOD Membership Director Staff Member

    It could be but it might take months. It should definitely happen though
     
  5. fattytwobyfour

    fattytwobyfour Grouper

    I just added a yellow fin flasher to my tank today. I had no idea what they meant when they said it was a terminal phase male. Thanks for clearing that up!
     
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  6. huntindoc

    huntindoc RRMAS BOD Membership Director Staff Member

    Terminal phase get's thrown around a lot to sell fish but it just means that the fish has reached a stage in the transition where it is no longer biologically possible to transition back to female. That can happen temporarily in the early stages of transition. The other term you see a lot is "super male" which really doesn't have any meaning....they're just trying to say theirs has exceptional color/markings.

    I love the yellow fin Allan, it's one of my favorite flashers
     
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  7. Deton8it

    Deton8it President Staff Member

    Got it, Terminal phase means Caityn Jenner. I never knew what that meant. I just assumed it was something with a color change.
     
  8. huntindoc

    huntindoc RRMAS BOD Membership Director Staff Member

    Well if I understand it correctly Caitlyn still has her.....er.....ah......male anatomy so she could revert back if she wants. A terminal phase male can never go back. He's Terminated!
     
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  9. graciesdad

    graciesdad Treasurer Staff Member

    Both of my females arrived yesterday. The hooded fairy wrasse is bigger than expected and the eight line is smaller. Hopefully they will become terminal soon. I will keep everyone posted on their progress.
     
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