Need SPS Help Badly

Discussion in 'Corals' started by sethmcc, Jan 19, 2012.

  1. sethmcc

    sethmcc RRMAS Supporter

    The drawing is just a guess from what i could see.  Much was still too small to make out.
     
  2. 501scionxb

    501scionxb Moderator

    Re: Re: Need SPS Help Badly

    That's scary dude looking but I'm sure its a flatworm.

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  3. phlash13

    phlash13 Guest

    Flatworms?!? Maybe?
     
  4. sethmcc

    sethmcc RRMAS Supporter

    this maybe a little closer.  I think I got a better look at it.  I know these drawing are kind of goofy looking but there is no way i can get a pic with them being so tiny.  But definitly going to get some flatworm exit. It will not hurt to try.
     
  5. meco65

    meco65 Wrasse

    Info from Melev's Reef.
     
  6. 501scionxb

    501scionxb Moderator

    Re: Re: Need SPS Help Badly

    There are other kinds out there. Wish there were other pictures.

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  7. sethmcc

    sethmcc RRMAS Supporter

    Yeah, I looked at a lot of pics of flatworms but they are all much much bigger than the ones i am seeing.  I read that the flatworms cover the coral and keep it from getting light.  If this is the case then I do not see how these tiny guys could be the problem.  I may have some other pest that I have not found yet.  Does anyone know of anything that could be in the water that we do not typical test for that i should check out? i have tested Mag, copper, cal, alk, nitrate, nitrite, phosp, ammonia, and ph. I may should re-phrase that, anything i should test for that could be causing these problems.
     
  8. sethmcc

    sethmcc RRMAS Supporter

    Found this info. Interesting, and wanted to see what you guys think.

    "I have seen a great many online questions regarding the loss of Acropora species as well as having other corals slowly becoming unhealthy and eventualy dieing. A great many times, this can be attributed to an improperly stocked aquarium. In that, we all would like to see a nice mixture of coral species within our systems. Yet this same mixture will most always lead to trouble in being able to maintain the more sensative species such as the acroporas. Of course, elevated levels of nutrients and the overall quality of the water can play a large role as well. But if you are trying to keep coralliamorphs (mushrooms), gorgonians, large polyped corals and others, such as hydnophora, galaxea or any of the "soft" corals. You are in effect creating a toxic soup within your aquarium through the release of such coral's chemicaly defesensive methods (aleopathy). So if you see your Acropora species losing tissue fairly quickly, you might want to take a hard look at what species you are keeping together. If you wish to keep species such as the Acroporas and Montiporas, I suggest you keep only those species in your aquarium "
    [url2='http://www.chucksaddiction.com/coraldisease.html':dzudwyao]http://www.chucksaddiction.com/coraldisease.html[/url2:dzudwyao]
     
    I have all kinds of soft coral and LPS, Acans, mushrooms, frogspawn, hammer, star polys, zoanthids, leathers
     
  9. fisher12

    fisher12 Past BOD Director

    I would say it's the soft corals such as leathers that are a big factor in your problem. Sps usually do not do well in mixed reefs with a lot of soft corals. Leathers tend to sluff off a slime layer as they grow which if it lands on another coral especially an sps it will smother out the polyps or kill them chemicaly. I would suggest you take a good look at your coral selection and set up another tank !!!
     
  10. monkeybone87

    monkeybone87 Administrator

    Everything is a good reason to setup a new tank lol
     
  11. sethmcc

    sethmcc RRMAS Supporter

    I do have soft its mushrooms, star polyps, zoas, small xenia, one finger leather and one toadstool.  I have LPS too, an acan, big frogspawn, and a small hammer.  And that is it in my 225.  The one coral out of these i see that could be causeing a problem is the frogspawn.  It will let out these long, skinny dark red things that kinda look like it could be stinging cells.  If anyone wants the big finger leather they can have it because i do see it letting off slime. I don't ever see the shrooms, zoas, stars or xenia releasing anything. Does anyone thing those four could be causing issues? PM me if anyone wants the finger leather.  Its is about the size of a large hand spread all the way out.
     
  12. sethmcc

    sethmcc RRMAS Supporter

    I have also adjusted the tank temp to 76-77.  Looks like my large hippo tang has a breakout of marine ich now, possible from the temp drop, but l think he is health enough to pull through fine. Cut back all 3 MH by an hour and stopped feeding as much.  All though my TDS meter reads 0, I am about to change out all my RO filters as soon as they arrive in the mail, including the membrane.  I am also going to pick up some flatworm exit today if they have any at LFS. And also I have been testing Alk every day, its 8 everytime, and phos which is somewhere between 0 - 0.05.
     
  13. reefmann

    reefmann Guest

    How is this going?  I have been down for the past couple weeks and unable to keep up with it. Are things turning for the better or??
     
  14. sethmcc

    sethmcc RRMAS Supporter

    Same as before accept my big hippo tang is looking horrible.  He has been great untill I dropped the temp. Looks like a bad outbreak of MI, but i am thinking he will pull through.  So far i have adjusted the temp to 76 and it stays constant even at night.  I have cut back the three MH one hour each. I have been feeding less. I skipped my weekly water change, It will be two weeks tomorrow so I will probably do my 35gal water change tomorrow. I have been checking KH almost every day and it is 8 every time.  I also put two of my powerhead on a timer at night, of and on every 15-30mins, so they are not blasting constantly. I have bought flatworm exit but not used it yet becasue i still need to buy carbon. the instructions say to use 1 pound per 50gal. thats a lot of carbon. it will cost me 60 to 80 bucks in carbon. As far as the coral the three sps have been doing good still are but unfortunatly all the other sps i have are dead.  I am going to give it a while and try to find a cheap monti cap to put in to see how it does.
     
  15. 501scionxb

    501scionxb Moderator

    A yellow tailed blue damsel will take care of those little flatworms. And they aren't as aggressive as the other damsels. No need to run all that carbon either:grin:

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