To Norman from Chris Jilge Norman, > > Thanks for the inquery, I will have to quote the freight to you based off > you r zip code, but the saw isn't very heavy. I also quoted the extra > guides and blades. The saw comes with two guides and one blade, but it > never hurts to have extras. If you are familiar with Dustin @ Zoanuts.com > he use these exclusively, and buys them from me. Feel free to call or > email if you have any questions. I will extend the COMAS discounts to your > group, and appreciate the business. Your local Fastenal won't know about > these saws they are a special, and I am the only distributor in OK. > Thanks to Comas and Zoanuts. > > Thank You, > Chris Jilge > Cjilge@fastenal.com > Phone 405-272-0680 > Fax 405-272-0628 > Cell 405-708-0844 From Norman to Chris - Here is the information on the Inland lapidary band saw from the Fastenal dealer in OKC that Paul was talking about. He is giving us the same discount that COMAS and Zoanuts gets. You can pass this on to the BOD for approval if this is the one you decide to get. The quote is attached. Norman" To BOD from Chris - We have discussed in the last several meetings selling the lapidary saw and purchasing a band saw that will serve the same function in our coral fragging workshops. The lapidary saw will be sold on ebay this week and Norman has gotten a good deal from our contacts at the Central Ok Marine Aquarium Society for the purchase of the new saw. Attendees to MACNA in Atlanta got to see first hand the effectivness of the band saw for fragging over circular type saws in cutting surface area, water dispersal during operation and reduced heat from cutting. The cost of the saw and blade are inline with our initial expenditure of the saw and the sale of our current saw is expected to offset the 1/2 of the purchase price of the new saw with the remainder coming from the workshop budget. Attached to this email is the cost quote. From Joe to Chris - I'm sorry but I don't recall the discussions regarding the saws. Was this an agenda item discussed during a regular meeting? Who voted on it and what were the results of the vote?Who authorized the selling of club assets? I don't think this is necessary and don't see how spending this money will benefit the club membership. From Chris to Joe - The tone of your email suggests that their are liberties being taken in conducting club business at the least and at the most deception by members of the board to carrying out personal agendas. I will review the history of the lapidary saw so that it is transparent as to the reason and need for the clubs actions. The lapidary saw was purchased to conduct workshops for our members and has been used in every workshop since its purchase. The workshops that Razorback Reef conducts have been a great success with both our membership and public. In an effort to continue to improve on our workshops the members that have conducted the workshops have made suggestions for improvements - one of which was problems with controlling our lapidary saws water output as it is very messy and flings all over the user, does not cut thick rock and produces an inordinate amount of heat damaging coral tissue. Other suggestions were to provide some sort of PA system which was addressed with a portable unit that produced quite a lot of feedback with its use during Reef Fest and we will be looking to improve on that further as well. As for the monetary expenditure for the saw the hole point of having a budget is such that all issues and expenses do not require board approval. The only need for board approval for an expenditure is when it falls outside the current categories provided in the RRMAS 2009 budget or the expenditure would exceed the allotted funds for that category for the year. If your are stating that you think this is a procedural issue and their needs to be a vote to sell the saw then we can certainly do that but please remember that the committee for the next workshop can elect to purchase the saw out of the workshop budget without ever off setting any of the expense. The benefit of to the club lies in its ability to improve on its workshops and can be used by any member as well. I hope that this explanation addresses your concerns. From Joe to Chris - My experience with budgets and capital purchases is that capital items must be approved by line-item either in the budget or by board vote after the fact. It is my opinion that this is an unbudgeted capital asset purchase and needs board approval. From Marti to Chris - I think that Joes point is simply that such a large expence should be > voted on by the board. We don't have the same comittee over all the > workshops so it only makes sence for the board to vote on large sums > that > are to be taken out of the workshop budget. The frag workshops have a > tight budget and that is a large expense to take out of their budget > for > the saw. > Maybe we should have a Head Chair that is over all the workshops to > supervise the amount of money for each workshop, and to supervise the > money? This way we have one person that is familiar with all the > expenses > that may come up. > Just a suggestion.. > Any ideas on that? From Christine to Chris - In my opinion, this is a club asset and should be voted on by at least the BOD if not the membership. The budget approves expenditure for club assets but the choice of assets should still be put to vote. The workshop budget applies to "disposable" items needed to conduct the workshops so the purchase would not fall under workshop budget. The surplus funds from workshops are to be applied to the income portion of the budget. The BOD or membership can then vote on how the surplus will be distributed, be it the purchase of assets, reserve fund, events, etc. I don't have the bylaws in front of me, but it seems like you can do a vote on the forum and take care of this pretty quickly. It sounds like it makes good sense to get the different saw. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. Christine Selby From Chris to BOD- BOD - Joe is correct that the discussion regarding the purchase and sale of our coral fragging saw should be conducted on line. I will copy and paste the email conversation as well as upload the estimate that Norman obtained so that we will have a record of it. Included will be the explanation by Christine of where funding would come from for the saw witch was stated incorrectly by myself as via the next workshop committee. This issue will be placed on the agenda for the January meeting in Benton this Saturday. I am glad that everyone has weighed in on this subject and if you would like to post comments on the forum for the record please look for the thread in the BOD Forum of the website.
